Talk:Shades
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- Exactly how do these spells work? Do you conjure non-damaging versions of these spells or their DCs differ according to the spell level of shades? Do the answers apply to shadow conjuration and greater shadow conjuration as well? -- Harleyquin
- They work exactly like the regular spells except they're a different spell level. In most cases, it's not a very useful spell. -- Austicke 22:14, 1 Dec 2005 (PST)
- They use illusion for spell focus as well, so if you have illusion and no evocation, it can be useful to get better dcs. -- 80.67.64.10 07:31, 2 Dec 2005 (PST)
- Good point, 80.67.64.10. That would be good info to add to the articles. -- Austicke 09:31, 2 Dec 2005 (PST)
- Would then this spell bypass evocation immunities? DaBear 09:54, 2 Dec 2005 (PST)
- yes. also bypasses evocation immunity. I added a note for all this info. -- Jjjhhhlll 12:55, 2 Dec 2005 (PST)
- That's good info. Shouldn't it be added to Shadow Conjuration too? -- Austicke 19:51, 2 Dec 2005 (PST)
- ok. I did Shadow Conjuration too. the spells there are no save, so no note on the dc, but the immunity stuff still applies. -- Jjjhhhlll 09:21, 3 Dec 2005 (PST)
- Thank you, Jjjhhhlll. -- Austicke 10:18, 3 Dec 2005 (PST)
- Jjjhhhlll is wrong. Illusion spell focus will not increase the DC of evocation sub spells from the shades radial and a shades cone of cold for example will not bypass evocation immunity. GhostNWN 07:40, 12 January 2006 (PST)
- Have you tested it Ghost? --Countess Terra 07:49, 12 January 2006 (PST)
Of course :) GhostNWN 08:40, 12 January 2006 (PST)
- eek. that explains a lot. I was wondering why certain monsters were immune to illusion spells AND evocation spells. Of course I was working with the false assumption about shades and such. -- Jjjhhhlll 12:55, 20 January 2006 (PST)
- I don't think that you need to know the normal version of a spell to cast the shadow-varient of the spell, this could make the spell usuful for sourcerers, as a 4 for 1 deal, you can save your valuable known spells, at a price of casing them at 1 level higher.