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[edit] Shifters vs clerics

  • It's known that outsider shapes are vulnerable to clerics with planar turning or the relevant domains. Bioware topic recently asked how shifters can resist turning, is there an answer to this that can be posted for the wiki? Harleyquin 07:17, 23 May 2006 (PDT)




The Azer Chief weapon is a Dwarven Waraxe. This is important to know when considering Weapon Focus feats. It will also do 2d4 fire damage. So Weapon Proficiency Exotic would be needed to obtain those special weapon related feats (focus, improved crit, dev crit, etc...). Bromium


Can someone clean up the Azer Chief Fire Stream damage math. It looks a little confusing. (wisdom modifier + d4 per 3 shifter levels) could be interpreted in a few ways. (wis+d4)*(shifter/3), or wis + (shifter/3)d4. Thanks Bromium 07:57, 14 December 2006 (PST)



Does the Rak spell protection also work vs Spell Like Effects? Like the Slaad Chaos Spit, or the Azer Fire Stream? Epic Drider also has Magic Missile as a Spell like feat. The Shadow Dancer has a Shadow Daze attack, is a Rak immune to that? Bromium 11:01, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Spells on a caster list like magic missile correspond to the actual spell, other things like chaos spittle (which ignores SR) are on a test by case basis. In general things that do not have a casting animation (a magic sphere of some variety) usually bypass SR. For outsider shape the following can be stopped by SR: Fire Stream, Mestil's Acid Breath, Ice Storm For outsider shape the following ignore SR: Chaos Spittle, Dispel Magic WhiZard 18:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


I've tested the outsider form with a wizard/druid/shifter and a sorcerer/druid/shifter, in neither case was I able to use the meta-magic feats empower and maximize with mestil's acid breath and icestorm even slotting a spell in the appropriate meta-magic (in the case of wizard) and resting. Yet it is posted on the main page that it is possible. Is there some weird trick or is the statement on the page no longer true. WhiZard 18:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Figured it out the meta-magic spell has to be quickslotted not just memorized.  
  *  As additional Notes a cleric with the water or magic domain can also cast icestorm
  *  The ice storm  deals 5d6cold + 3d6 bludgeoning in a druid/shifter build
  * The ice storm deals (2 + (cleric level)/3)d6cold + 3d6 bludgeoning in a druid/shifter/cleric

build even if the cleric level is too low to cast the spell or doesn't have the correct domains. Minimum damage is 3d6 cold + 3d6 bludgeoning WhiZard 04:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, quickslotting the meta-magic spell is enough. You do not have to memorize it. And the caster level of ice storm seems to be your druid level in general (and completely ignores your shifter level). But if you quickslot, say, a wizard's ice storm then this quickslotted ice storm will be cast at your wizard level. If you also quickslot a druid's ice storm then you can cast ice storm at different levels while shifted. Oh, and unlimited auto quickened maximized ice storms at caster level 30 are also possible :) GW-Ts 12:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)