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[edit] Disagreements

NWNWiki is a collaborative community project; and, like any project of its scope, we're bound to have disagreements. I think it's a healthy part of the process, but we need to manage disagreements properly and respect others' opinions. I don't bring this up because I think it's been a problem, but I'd rather state this before someone gets bent out of shape rather than after.

As a community project, the users of NWNWiki are the ultimate authority. If we can't come to consensus about an issue, we vote and majority rules. I host the NWNWiki web site, but I get one vote just like everyone else. If I'm outvoted on something, I'll respect the decision and I hope others will do the same.

Thanks. I just wanted to make that clear. -- Austicke 09:07, 12 Sep 2005 (PDT)

On a related note, if someone adds or changes something you disagree with, please discuss it on the Talk page rather than just changing it again. At other wikis, I've seen two people going back and forth with the same edit over and over and it isn't pretty. If you know it'll lead to a disagreement, open a discussion on the Talk page to decide. The same goes for major edits that you think might cause some controversy. Thanks! -- Austicke 09:29, 12 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I have a disagreement which affects a few pages (hence why I make it here rather than on the other pages). Some of the new tables on the character classes include HP range. I just don't like the look of it, I find it to be clutter. Stating that a class has 1Dx hitpoints is good enough, I don't think we need to demonstrate the HP range for 2dx or 3dx as they level up. I vote we cut those out of the tables. Bromium 14:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spam

  • We've had the good fortune of attracting our first professional spammer. See here. Please keep an eye out for this type of stuff. Their edits should be reverted immediately and an admin should ban them. -- Austicke 15:08, 29 Nov 2005 (PST)
  • They just hit two more pages, each time with different IP addresses. If this keeps up, we may need to require registration to edit pages. -- Austicke 20:09, 29 Nov 2005 (PST)
  • I added a spam filter to NWNWiki. Hopefully it helps. If you're unable to edit a page due to the filter (i.e., you get a false positive), please let me know. If you'd like to see the links that are being blocked, see here. -- Austicke 21:04, 29 Nov 2005 (PST)
  • We're getting hit with some spam this evening. Please keep an eye out and revert any bad stuff. -- Austicke 19:31, 11 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • Caught & dealt with another block. person's posting general pron/spam links in a bit of div code. It broke the main page by replacing "s with incorrect code. banned all IPs involved (+ a registered 1-post user). Deleted all blank pages involved.--Defunc7 19:52, 12 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • Thanks, Defunc7. I'll add the garbage to the Spam Blacklist. -- Austicke 02:45, 13 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • We got hit again. :( -- Pstarky 06:35, 18 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • Thanks for deleting it, Pstarky. I'll add it to the blacklist. BTW, as an admin, you should use the rollback link when reverting edits. -- Austicke 09:02, 18 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • Thanks for the tips. never work out that one. -- Pstarky 09:30, 18 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • I have moved the blacklist to the page Spam blacklist, so admins can add spam URLs to it without my intervention. (It's protected, so only admins can add to it.) Please add URLs to the top list with an explanation or date. As you can see, the URLs need to be in a particluar format, so follow the other examples. Thanks! -- Austicke 09:45, 18 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • It's actually my fault that the spam got through last night. I had added adult.dynu.net to the Spam blacklist last week when they first visited, but I entered it as adult.\dynu.\net instead of adult\.dynu\.net. Doh! If I had entered it properly, the spam would have been blocked. Sorry about that. -- Austicke 10:09, 18 Dec 2005 (PST)
  • I added another filter that will hopefully block the hidden spam using the div tag. -- Alec Usticke 18:58, 5 January 2006 (PST)
  • The additional measures seem to be helping, because I see other wikis being spammed, but we haven't been hit since. I know the spammers have been here, because their bots have registered accounts, but they obviously were unsuccesful at posting their spam links. I'm sure they'll figure a way around it eventually, but hopefully it'll take them a while. *knock on wood* -- Alec Usticke 10:20, 16 January 2006 (PST)


The spammers are out in full force today. They're doing a good job defeating the spam blacklist, so I'm going to install a captcha. -- Alec Usticke 14:03, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
Well, I added a captcha, but I think it needs a work, since it's case sensitive and probably confusing. Does anyone know PHP by any chance? -- Alec Usticke 15:17, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
The captcha is live. It's required whenever a new URL is added to a page and the editor isn't logged in with a confirmed email address (and also required to register a new account). This obviously won't stop a human spammer, but hopefully it will minimize the bot attacks -- with only minimal disruption to editors. -- Alec Usticke 07:22, 18 July 2006 (PDT)

No spam in the four days since the captcha was implemented. It looks like it's working. I'm sure they'll eventually find a way around it but hopefully it'll be a long, long time. -- Alec Usticke 09:26, 21 July 2006 (PDT)

[edit] MediaWiki upgrade

I've upgraded NWNWiki & NWN2Wiki to the latest software versions. Please let me know if you see any problems. (I'm sure NWN2Wiki is fine, but I did a lot of hacking on NWNWiki when it started without necessary keeping track of everything, so a customization could have been overwritten.) NWN2Wiki is on the very latest version (1.5.3), but NWNWiki is on version 1.4.12 (all bugs patched, but some features are different). I'll eventually upgrade NWNWiki to the 1.5.* version, but that will require a database conversion, so I'm in no rush. :) -- Austicke 01:05, 17 Dec 2005 (PST)

NWNWiki is now upgraded to MediaWiki version 1.5.4 -- the same version as NWN2Wiki. It seemed to work fine, but please let me know if you notice any strangeness. Thanks! -- Austicke 19:25, 25 December 2005 (PST)

FYI, you might want to go through your NWNWiki preferences again, because it now includes some new features -- such as email notifications. -- Alec Usticke 19:47, 25 December 2005 (PST)

We're now on version 1.5.5. -- Alec Usticke 19:39, 5 January 2006 (PST)

Upgraded to 1.6.7. -- Alec Usticke 13:39, 28 June 2006 (PDT)

Upgraded to MediaWiki 1.7.1 and PHP 5.1.2. -- Alec Usticke 10:07, 13 July 2006 (PDT)

Not done yet. Working on fixing some config errors. -- Alec Usticke 10:20, 13 July 2006 (PDT)
Should be done now. Please let me know if you find any errors. -- Alec Usticke 11:28, 13 July 2006 (PDT)

Do our NWNWiki logins work for NWN2Wiki, or do we need to create new account? Blacknight 10:07, 2 November 2006 (PST)

Unfortunately, NWN2Wiki uses a different database, so you'll need to create another account. You can use the same name/password combination for both though. I wanted to start totally fresh for NWN2Wiki, but I probably should have still linked the accounts. -- Alec Usticke 19:18, 2 November 2006 (PST)

[edit] UserScore

I don't want to make this a competition, but here's a list of the top 10 most active NWNWiki editors.

  1. Pstarky Philip Starkey (2649 Edits on 794 pages)
  2. Austicke Alec Usticke (2167 Edits on 1229 pages)
  3. Enigmatic Enigmatic (1061 Edits on 618 pages)
  4. Defunc7 (1036 Edits on 464 pages)
  5. Syrus Greycloak Karl Nickels (879 Edits on 301 pages)
  6. Countess Terra (846 Edits on 613 pages)
  7. Brick Thrower Brick Thrower (434 Edits on 167 pages)
  8. The Krit (410 Edits on 207 pages)
  9. GhostNWN Igor (248 Edits on 163 pages)
  10. Llandru Anil Purandaré (241 Edits on 229 pages)

-- Alec Usticke 09:26, 30 June 2006 (PDT)

Before we move to Wikia, I thought I'd post a new tally.

  1. Pstarky Philip Starkey (2657 Edits on 796 pages)
  2. Austicke Alec Usticke (2447 Edits on 1374 pages)
  3. Enigmatic Enigmatic (1061 Edits on 618 pages)
  4. The Krit (1046 Edits on 580 pages)
  5. Defunc7 (1036 Edits on 464 pages)
  6. Alaisiagae (911 Edits on 557 pages)
  7. Syrus Greycloak Karl Nickels (893 Edits on 301 pages)
  8. Countess Terra (847 Edits on 613 pages)
  9. Brick Thrower Brick Thrower (429 Edits on 164 pages)
  10. WynterArwynRose Angel (280 Edits on 190 pages)

Not a huge change from a year ago. -- Alec Usticke 15:10, 31 July 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Player Pages

I have recently come across some pages that have led me to the conclusion that NWNWiki should not host pages that describe particular players. NWNWiki users can, of course, describe themselves on their user pages; what I am now objecting to is a page like Chokra Broodslayer, which is an actual wiki entry about a player.

So what is so bad about a few pages like that? The problem comes when the pages start to contain negative information, as is the case in Demon X and Evil Ufo. Pages like these can quickly lead to unfounded denouncements, which I believe would seriously undermine the integrity of NWNWiki. To avoid having to make subjective decisions as to what is acceptable and what is not, I propose that no wiki articles about particular individuals be allowed. This might be seen as drastic, but it is a simple and objective criterion, and I do not see a general benefit coming from even the positive player articles.

For completeness: the players article itself would also be deleted under this proposal.

This would be a big step that should only be taken if the community agrees to it. So this is my request for other opinions. How do others feel about this? Does anyone know of a benefit of keeping some articles about particular players? Does anyone think we should keep all articles about particular players despite the potential for abusive attacks? Does anyone have an alternate proposal? --The Krit 02:24, 1 May 2007 (PDT)


Makes sense to me. I would be two those two "negative" pages were written by the players themselves though. -- Alec Usticke 16:31, 1 May 2007 (PDT)


Are we talking about Community Profile pages or some type of Player Character (from a given PW) page? I would think that if a PW has a page on here, it would be acceptable to list which players are part of that world. I would hate to see us nerf the site over a few bad apples. I've read those pages and frowned. I also didn't like the fact that some people were using this site as a message board between friends. (Posting on each others Character Page.) But what can you do with people like that? They'll do it anyways and get banned for it later. This is truly a coin flip in my mind. On one hand I'd hate to see us nerf a site. On the other... what gain is there to show a page of a particular player on a particular, for a game where player characters come and go at the drop of a hat? I would not be heart broken to see those pages go. Bromium 07:26, 2 May 2007 (PDT)

Someone just removed the deletion request for Demon X. Is there an agreement on whether we get rid of those player account pages with mainly negative comments? GhostNWN 21:22, 13 July 2007 (PDT)
There hasn't been much said about this. I think we should leave the deletion notices up for a while, and eventually, if there are no objections, those pages can get deleted. I don't know how long, but it should be at least a few months. In the meantime, anyone who objects should explain why (either here or on the talk pages for the player pages) instead of merely removing the deletion tag. --The Krit 21:31, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
One other thing -- the deletion notice reads "do not remove this notice from articles that you have created yourself." When an anonymous user removes the deletion tag (as was done in this case), it looks a bit like an attempt to circumvent this restriction. --The Krit 21:34, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
I restored the deletion tag when I posted the report here. I'm tempted to get rid of the pages by August really since the deletion reqs have been up for about a year now already with no objections it seems. GhostNWN 22:48, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
It's been much less than a year. In fact, it's been less than a month. --The Krit 22:23, 19 July 2007 (PDT)
I see no benefit to keeping articles on specific players. We should also be careful with statements about players or persons in other articles, if it isn't factual, like XX created script library YY, or free of any judgment, it should probably be removed. Amywien 13:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
To add, I'd recommend we take note of the relevantWikipedia policy on Biographies and perhaps follow some of their guidelines. Amywien 13:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Downtime

Sorry for the downtime today. My web host had a technical problem. We're back up now (obviously). -- Alec Usticke 12:27, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Moving to Wikia

Moved discussion to NWNWiki talk:Community Portal/Wikia move.

[edit] Gaming wiki chat this Sunday!

Hi all,

On Sunday October 14th there is going to be an IRC chat for gaming wikis at the #wikia-gaming channel. Contributors, admins, and foudners of all/all gaming-related wiki on Wikia are invited to discuss common issues that we might have, sharing our experiences, and helping each other out. The time of the chat will be:

California New York London
1pm 4pm 9pm

Please help to spread the word, and hope to see you there!

-User:PanSola 16:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible problems

I'm about to try a change that could potentially corrupt the appearance of every page on this wiki. However, if I do things right, all I will do is add options and no existing pages will change. If anyone notices pages that suddenly and inexplicably look odd, please post here with a description of what is wrong, which page is affected, and which skin you use to view NWNWiki. Thanks. --The Krit 22:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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